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#11
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Last post by Administrator - December 11, 2021, 11:30:42 PM? Can I erect a partition on the property line into the water to keep the bow of the boat next door from protruding under the back of my boathouse?
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You technically own the water bottoms out to 1/2 way across the canal. However, you cannot build a deck past 12' or 10' into the canal depending on what source you go by. No structures other than fencing / decking is allowed in the 5' offset from the property line. You must retain clear access to the required 5' side yard - no sheds etc.
There are cases where you need to create that partition. One would be the situation where you have a pool and it is possible to walk from a neighbors dock to yours. The law requires yards with pools to be fenced so you would have to either build a fence to secure your yard or fence off the pool itself.
I am not the authority but the parish may have some input. If it were me I would probably build the fence you want but not out more than 10'.
Please zoom in with the Assessors GIS site to get an idea of your property lines before building then back off a few inches just to be safe. See https://atlas.geoportalmaps.com/st_tammany
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You technically own the water bottoms out to 1/2 way across the canal. However, you cannot build a deck past 12' or 10' into the canal depending on what source you go by. No structures other than fencing / decking is allowed in the 5' offset from the property line. You must retain clear access to the required 5' side yard - no sheds etc.
There are cases where you need to create that partition. One would be the situation where you have a pool and it is possible to walk from a neighbors dock to yours. The law requires yards with pools to be fenced so you would have to either build a fence to secure your yard or fence off the pool itself.
I am not the authority but the parish may have some input. If it were me I would probably build the fence you want but not out more than 10'.
Please zoom in with the Assessors GIS site to get an idea of your property lines before building then back off a few inches just to be safe. See https://atlas.geoportalmaps.com/st_tammany
#12
CLICK HERE TO GO TO TOPICS / Re: Security
Last post by Administrator - December 11, 2021, 11:24:07 PMAn excellent publication on neighborhood security is available here:
http://www.northwoodhills.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Guidebook.pdf
Of course preventing unwarranted exposure is the first step.
http://www.northwoodhills.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Guidebook.pdf
Of course preventing unwarranted exposure is the first step.
#13
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Last post by Administrator - December 11, 2021, 11:21:00 PMNovember 28, 2016
EDEN ISLES HOMEOWNERS & HOA Boards
SUBJECT: COMMON SENSE SECURITY
Dear Ladies & Gentlemen:
As a resident of Eden Isles I feel the duty to give my feedback regarding security issues.
While I have no objection to garage sales "Neighbor to Neighbor" within Eden Isles I have real concerns with advertising garage sales or other neighborhood events outside of our immediate area.
Eden Isles, Moonraker & Clipper Estates were created and zoned for single family private homes. Encouraging non residents to visit our neighborhood without regard violates our right to privacy and exposes us to significant security risks. Many who use a realtor in marketing one's home also do so in the name of security.
For security reasons many fine neighborhoods have gates to deter outsiders. Less secure neighborhoods have lower property values and higher crime. Since our streets were dedicated to the parish, Eden Isles cannot install gates.
It is important that those not familiar with the metro area realize we are only 15 minutes from one of the most dangerous and crime ridden cities in the country.
Security and opening up the neighborhood to unknown visitors "in mass" simply do not go together. When you are not expecting it or when evacuating for storms some of those "visitors" will be coming for our things simply because they have already been exposed to what we have.
I would encourage homeowners to demand that people running for HOA boards commit to keeping our homes private, recognize known security risks, and in general commit to the expectations of safety, security & preserving the integrity of our neighborhood.
EDEN ISLES HOMEOWNERS & HOA Boards
SUBJECT: COMMON SENSE SECURITY
Dear Ladies & Gentlemen:
As a resident of Eden Isles I feel the duty to give my feedback regarding security issues.
While I have no objection to garage sales "Neighbor to Neighbor" within Eden Isles I have real concerns with advertising garage sales or other neighborhood events outside of our immediate area.
Eden Isles, Moonraker & Clipper Estates were created and zoned for single family private homes. Encouraging non residents to visit our neighborhood without regard violates our right to privacy and exposes us to significant security risks. Many who use a realtor in marketing one's home also do so in the name of security.
For security reasons many fine neighborhoods have gates to deter outsiders. Less secure neighborhoods have lower property values and higher crime. Since our streets were dedicated to the parish, Eden Isles cannot install gates.
It is important that those not familiar with the metro area realize we are only 15 minutes from one of the most dangerous and crime ridden cities in the country.
Security and opening up the neighborhood to unknown visitors "in mass" simply do not go together. When you are not expecting it or when evacuating for storms some of those "visitors" will be coming for our things simply because they have already been exposed to what we have.
I would encourage homeowners to demand that people running for HOA boards commit to keeping our homes private, recognize known security risks, and in general commit to the expectations of safety, security & preserving the integrity of our neighborhood.
#14
CLICK HERE TO GO TO TOPICS / Dec. 2021 Forum Repair & Recon...
Last post by Administrator - December 11, 2021, 08:59:25 PMAs most of you know software crashes sometimes. That happened to this Forum in December of 2021. The forum was created way back in 2010.
The Forum is run on one of GoDaddy's internet servers and they "upgraded" their servers. This required a complete reconstruction of the Forum. Unfortunately, all of the users and a lot of historical posts were "lost".
I tried to manually copy the most important stuff from the old system to this one.
All is working as designed at this point and you may sign in, read and post existing and new topics at will.
This forum is an unpaid public service with no advertising and no selling of any user's info.
Thanks for your understanding.
The Forum is run on one of GoDaddy's internet servers and they "upgraded" their servers. This required a complete reconstruction of the Forum. Unfortunately, all of the users and a lot of historical posts were "lost".
I tried to manually copy the most important stuff from the old system to this one.
All is working as designed at this point and you may sign in, read and post existing and new topics at will.
This forum is an unpaid public service with no advertising and no selling of any user's info.
Thanks for your understanding.
#15
CLICK HERE TO GO TO TOPICS / Eden Isles and the Covenants
Last post by Administrator - December 11, 2021, 08:51:51 PMApril 2017
Covenant questions seem to come up regularly especially with new residents and the advent of "http://www.nextdoor.com". Below is a little research on the matter.
A primer on the Eden Isles Covenants (reservations, restrictions & conditions)
The Eden Isles HOA owns no property in the subdivision, is not part of the covenants and not part of your deed restrictions. This is why Moonraker and Clipper Estates (collectively just as large as what is traditionally thought of as Eden Isles) do not support entrance maintenance costs even though their access is via Eden Isles Dr. Eden Isles Dr. & it's median are public property and the responsibility of the parish! The utilities, water, sewerage and electricity for the whole area (Clipper & Moonraker included) are contained within this public area, yet the Eden Isles HOA has taken it upon themselves to cut the grass on this public thoroughfare.
see ... http://stpao.org/check-your-assessment/ (lists property ownership - the E.I.H.O.A. does not own any property)
The Eden Isles HOA can neither govern anything nor enforce the covenants except as a designated volunteer representative of a named complainant. Contrary to the assumption of many, the Eden Isles HOA is in name only and is actually a neighborhood civic association. The parish has mostly turned a blind eye to the HOA's activities on non-owned public property such as entry way signage and beautification. Since parish officials are elected and rotate from term to term it is quite possible they too do not always know the difference.
see ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighborhood_association (gives legal definition of Civic Association versus HOA)
Our subdivision was designed by the developer and zoned by the parish as single family private homes. The general assumption is that no home based business or other activity is allowed that would result in an unusual number of packages delivered, attract an unusual number of vehicles, cause a disproportionate number of non residents to come onto the property or otherwise disturb the privacy associated with single family home ownership.
At this time the HOA has about a 20% membership, therefore it does not represent the overwhelming majority of homeowners. This, in part, may be due to its disregard for private home ownership. It throws public events including inviting, in mass, the public from outside of the area to HOA sponsored and promoted garage sales. It also holds HOA sponsored public events on non-owned grounds within the neighborhood. This is not only an unwarranted intrusion into homeowner privacy but puts homeowners at risk. Most homeowners understand that. In fact, many quality subdivisions are gated to enforce the privacy of single family home ownership!
To get a handle on what the HOA is and is not, a real study of the covenants are in order. The covenants (reservations, restrictions & conditions) are part of everyone's legally binding property deed as recorded in the St. Tammany Parish Courthouse. Read them over & over until you really understand them! In reality the HOA has become nothing more than a social club who's mission should be concentrating on representing the best interests of the Eden Isles residents before their elected officials along with preserving the safety, security and integrity of the neighborhood. (note, advertising garage sales and other events in mass to residents outside of our immediate area is a security & safety hazard)
see ... http://www.datakik.com/eihoa/Documents/Covenants/covenant%20research.htm
Now let's talk about the "by-laws" of the HOA which some have confused as having some sort of power. The by-laws have absolutely no effect on the vast majority of homeowners. They simply govern the HOA itself and mostly apply to it's board of directors. So what comprises the HOA? It is the members and that's it. Think about what would happen if the HOA were sued - are you insured?
see ... http://www.datakik.com/eihoa/Documents/2008%20By-Laws_Formatted%20Final.pdf
As defined in the covenants, the real teeth of governing the neighborhood was in the hands of the Architectural Committee, a legally formed entity not connected with the HOA. The Architectural Committee, as outlined in the covenants, is to hold annual elections in order to be a valid entity. Following Hurricane Katrina the Architectural Committee was allowed to collapse and the State of Louisiana formally terminated it as a legal entity. The current HOA often refers to the "Architectural Committee" but whatever they think they are referring to does not exist as a legal entity and therefore not capable of legally enforcing anything. Despite the collapse of the Architectural Committee the Covenants endure, it's just that the HOA is not the enforcement mechanism.
see ... https://coraweb.sos.la.gov/CommercialSearch/CommercialSearchDetails.aspx?CharterID=464646_D9FA371342
Fortunately most of the covenants are mirrored in the parish code of ordinances and enforceable by the parish.
see ... http://www.datakik.com/eihoa/Documents/Covenants/stp-on-covenants.pdf
see ... http://www.stpgov.org
So who enforces the covenants? You do! This means you can personally sue your neighbor regarding a breech of covenants.
see ... http://www.datakik.com/eihoa/Info/FAQ.htm
Additional historical information on the formation & makeup of Eden Isles and the why of just about everything is still available on the archived "legacy" website stored at - http://www.eiohforum.com Simply click on "Eden Isles".
Note, this post is printable in .pdf format by way of the attachment.
rev. 6/17
Covenant questions seem to come up regularly especially with new residents and the advent of "http://www.nextdoor.com". Below is a little research on the matter.
A primer on the Eden Isles Covenants (reservations, restrictions & conditions)
The Eden Isles HOA owns no property in the subdivision, is not part of the covenants and not part of your deed restrictions. This is why Moonraker and Clipper Estates (collectively just as large as what is traditionally thought of as Eden Isles) do not support entrance maintenance costs even though their access is via Eden Isles Dr. Eden Isles Dr. & it's median are public property and the responsibility of the parish! The utilities, water, sewerage and electricity for the whole area (Clipper & Moonraker included) are contained within this public area, yet the Eden Isles HOA has taken it upon themselves to cut the grass on this public thoroughfare.
see ... http://stpao.org/check-your-assessment/ (lists property ownership - the E.I.H.O.A. does not own any property)
The Eden Isles HOA can neither govern anything nor enforce the covenants except as a designated volunteer representative of a named complainant. Contrary to the assumption of many, the Eden Isles HOA is in name only and is actually a neighborhood civic association. The parish has mostly turned a blind eye to the HOA's activities on non-owned public property such as entry way signage and beautification. Since parish officials are elected and rotate from term to term it is quite possible they too do not always know the difference.
see ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighborhood_association (gives legal definition of Civic Association versus HOA)
Our subdivision was designed by the developer and zoned by the parish as single family private homes. The general assumption is that no home based business or other activity is allowed that would result in an unusual number of packages delivered, attract an unusual number of vehicles, cause a disproportionate number of non residents to come onto the property or otherwise disturb the privacy associated with single family home ownership.
At this time the HOA has about a 20% membership, therefore it does not represent the overwhelming majority of homeowners. This, in part, may be due to its disregard for private home ownership. It throws public events including inviting, in mass, the public from outside of the area to HOA sponsored and promoted garage sales. It also holds HOA sponsored public events on non-owned grounds within the neighborhood. This is not only an unwarranted intrusion into homeowner privacy but puts homeowners at risk. Most homeowners understand that. In fact, many quality subdivisions are gated to enforce the privacy of single family home ownership!
To get a handle on what the HOA is and is not, a real study of the covenants are in order. The covenants (reservations, restrictions & conditions) are part of everyone's legally binding property deed as recorded in the St. Tammany Parish Courthouse. Read them over & over until you really understand them! In reality the HOA has become nothing more than a social club who's mission should be concentrating on representing the best interests of the Eden Isles residents before their elected officials along with preserving the safety, security and integrity of the neighborhood. (note, advertising garage sales and other events in mass to residents outside of our immediate area is a security & safety hazard)
see ... http://www.datakik.com/eihoa/Documents/Covenants/covenant%20research.htm
Now let's talk about the "by-laws" of the HOA which some have confused as having some sort of power. The by-laws have absolutely no effect on the vast majority of homeowners. They simply govern the HOA itself and mostly apply to it's board of directors. So what comprises the HOA? It is the members and that's it. Think about what would happen if the HOA were sued - are you insured?
see ... http://www.datakik.com/eihoa/Documents/2008%20By-Laws_Formatted%20Final.pdf
As defined in the covenants, the real teeth of governing the neighborhood was in the hands of the Architectural Committee, a legally formed entity not connected with the HOA. The Architectural Committee, as outlined in the covenants, is to hold annual elections in order to be a valid entity. Following Hurricane Katrina the Architectural Committee was allowed to collapse and the State of Louisiana formally terminated it as a legal entity. The current HOA often refers to the "Architectural Committee" but whatever they think they are referring to does not exist as a legal entity and therefore not capable of legally enforcing anything. Despite the collapse of the Architectural Committee the Covenants endure, it's just that the HOA is not the enforcement mechanism.
see ... https://coraweb.sos.la.gov/CommercialSearch/CommercialSearchDetails.aspx?CharterID=464646_D9FA371342
Fortunately most of the covenants are mirrored in the parish code of ordinances and enforceable by the parish.
see ... http://www.datakik.com/eihoa/Documents/Covenants/stp-on-covenants.pdf
see ... http://www.stpgov.org
So who enforces the covenants? You do! This means you can personally sue your neighbor regarding a breech of covenants.
see ... http://www.datakik.com/eihoa/Info/FAQ.htm
Additional historical information on the formation & makeup of Eden Isles and the why of just about everything is still available on the archived "legacy" website stored at - http://www.eiohforum.com Simply click on "Eden Isles".
Note, this post is printable in .pdf format by way of the attachment.
rev. 6/17
#16
CLICK HERE TO GO TO TOPICS / Boat & Yacht Service Providers
Last post by Administrator - December 11, 2021, 08:43:11 PMYacht / Boat Maintenance Services - Updated Sept. 2020
Divers for underwater hull cleaning & changing of zinc's on your boat.
(expect to pay around 2.50 a foot, 100 min. for cleaning; changing of zinc's usually extra)
Underwater Boat Servicing LLC ... readily available in Gulfport; Eden Isles by scheduled maintenance agreement only
- Aaron Seal 228-669-6371 www.fixr.com/sp.diver.html
Ajseal09@yahoo.com
Diver & Captain: Eddie Black 504-875-8199
- based in Gulfport but will service Slidell area
Bluewater Marine - Dock service & Hull cleaning diver
c/o Eric Conter 985-685-8046
Seaquest Diving Service https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Professional-Service/Seaquest-Diving-Service-318533724856358/
(bottom maint, hull survey, zincs, prop pulling, recovery)
c/o Ray Meek 228-669-4845
Underwater Services (Irish Bayou area)
Chuck Wolfe (rec. by Sea Tow)
985-960-1962
note: also does towing
Pelican Dive Services (St. Tammany / Gulf Coast area)
P.O. Box 234
Abita Springs, La. 70420
24/7 Service - Insured
Hull Cleaning and Inspection, Prop Removal, Zinc Replacement
Contact: Jason Baker 985-373-3019 pelicandiveservice@gmail.com
Ricardo Gutierrez (West End New Orleans but travels) NLA, retired 2018
3337 DeSaix Blvd.
New Orleans, LA 70119
PH: 504-250-0213
note: has done hull cleaning & zinc service many, many years
Shipshape Diving (Gulfport Area - may expand) ... card from Gulfport Municipal Harbor
Ryan Shoemake email: ShipshapeDiving@yahoo.com
phone: 601-716-7811
Deep South Dock & Piling Restoration (Slidell area)
- other diving services also available like hull cleaning
985-200-2225
W-C Boat Doctors
200 Marina Dr
Slidell, LA 70458
985-201-4861
Prop Dusters - Rhet Johnson
228-348-7767
note: moved to Florida, no longer available
Matt Perret (hwy.11 / Slidell area)
985-778-5335
note: no longer returns calls
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Prop Repair.
Jefferson Propeller
http://www.jeffersonpropeller.com/
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Yacht painting:
... Carlos Martin 850-530-6574
works with Awlgrip & Imron
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Yacht detailing / boat washing:
... Salty Dog Boat Detailing: Jason Ritterr 985-774-9195
... Dockside Marine -
Wash, wax, detail, interior: Terri Boyet 985-768-1874 ! RELIABLE !
Fiberglass, painting, monthly boat washing: Tim Sanchez 985-215-3198
... Tina Crooke: 985-707-3894 (active in Oak Harbor Marina)
... All the Small Detailz: 985-710-1894
... Ship Shape: 850-305-4489
... Pristine Vessel Cleaning: Kevin Smith 985-956-3528
* These guys are hard to find when you need them. If you have any other divers or yacht service providers you would like to see listed, please post your reply or send a note to info@datakik.com with the subject line of "Yacht Maintenance". ... Thanks
Divers for underwater hull cleaning & changing of zinc's on your boat.
(expect to pay around 2.50 a foot, 100 min. for cleaning; changing of zinc's usually extra)
Underwater Boat Servicing LLC ... readily available in Gulfport; Eden Isles by scheduled maintenance agreement only
- Aaron Seal 228-669-6371 www.fixr.com/sp.diver.html
Ajseal09@yahoo.com
Diver & Captain: Eddie Black 504-875-8199
- based in Gulfport but will service Slidell area
Bluewater Marine - Dock service & Hull cleaning diver
c/o Eric Conter 985-685-8046
Seaquest Diving Service https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Professional-Service/Seaquest-Diving-Service-318533724856358/
(bottom maint, hull survey, zincs, prop pulling, recovery)
c/o Ray Meek 228-669-4845
Underwater Services (Irish Bayou area)
Chuck Wolfe (rec. by Sea Tow)
985-960-1962
note: also does towing
Pelican Dive Services (St. Tammany / Gulf Coast area)
P.O. Box 234
Abita Springs, La. 70420
24/7 Service - Insured
Hull Cleaning and Inspection, Prop Removal, Zinc Replacement
Contact: Jason Baker 985-373-3019 pelicandiveservice@gmail.com
Ricardo Gutierrez (West End New Orleans but travels) NLA, retired 2018
3337 DeSaix Blvd.
New Orleans, LA 70119
PH: 504-250-0213
note: has done hull cleaning & zinc service many, many years
Shipshape Diving (Gulfport Area - may expand) ... card from Gulfport Municipal Harbor
Ryan Shoemake email: ShipshapeDiving@yahoo.com
phone: 601-716-7811
Deep South Dock & Piling Restoration (Slidell area)
- other diving services also available like hull cleaning
985-200-2225
W-C Boat Doctors
200 Marina Dr
Slidell, LA 70458
985-201-4861
Prop Dusters - Rhet Johnson
228-348-7767
note: moved to Florida, no longer available
Matt Perret (hwy.11 / Slidell area)
985-778-5335
note: no longer returns calls
-------------------------------------------------
Prop Repair.
Jefferson Propeller
http://www.jeffersonpropeller.com/
-------------------------------------------------
Yacht painting:
... Carlos Martin 850-530-6574
works with Awlgrip & Imron
-------------------------------------------------
Yacht detailing / boat washing:
... Salty Dog Boat Detailing: Jason Ritterr 985-774-9195
... Dockside Marine -
Wash, wax, detail, interior: Terri Boyet 985-768-1874 ! RELIABLE !
Fiberglass, painting, monthly boat washing: Tim Sanchez 985-215-3198
... Tina Crooke: 985-707-3894 (active in Oak Harbor Marina)
... All the Small Detailz: 985-710-1894
... Ship Shape: 850-305-4489
... Pristine Vessel Cleaning: Kevin Smith 985-956-3528
* These guys are hard to find when you need them. If you have any other divers or yacht service providers you would like to see listed, please post your reply or send a note to info@datakik.com with the subject line of "Yacht Maintenance". ... Thanks